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Sara Dawn's avatar

I would argue against workplaces penalizing men for taking leave and not penalizing women. When men take leave for their kids, they get 'oh look what a good dad he is, taking care of his kids ehen they're sick' and women often get penalized in dirty looks and passed over for promotions as well as lower scores on performance reviews. I lived this in a female dominated profession. Not to mention my husband, workong for the federal government, always had more leave than me (and his sick leave accumulates indefinitely, and separate from his vacation), so he would always be the one to stay home or pick up a sick kid, bring them to all their doctor appointments. This killed me inside, never being able to stay home with my babies because if I did, I wouldnt be able to go on vacation in the summer. And I worked at a hospital as a PT. Oh there was also the part about letting down your coworkers when they had to cover as many of your patients as possible.

Anyway I fundamentally disagree with the implication that dads are punished for taking care of sick kids. They usually get a pat on the back for doing the bare minimum while we get the motherhood penalty at our workplaces.

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I would be curious if your husband and any husbands are interested in understanding if their perspective of their contribution to household labor is actually accurate or not. Do they ask their wives if their perspective seems to reflect reality? Do they ask for the data of what their wives are loaded with and how much time they spend on how much they do work at home?

This reminds me how I used to be fatalistic when coming out of final exams. I would tell everyone, that I had failed it, but really it was just a coping mechanism in case I didn't do well, but that was not realistic and it would piss my friends off when I end up setting the curve. Eventually I started grading and rewarding myself on how accurately I can predict what my test score would be and I became really skilled at gauging accurately my own scores.

I feel like this is what's missing. It's not that dads are lying, it's that they want to be equal and so therefore if they think that it is, they don't have to do much more work to understand how accurate their perspective is. There is no curiosity about how accurate they truly are about their perspectives, even if there is a correct answer.

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